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Re: What proof do you want? And in turn, what proof do you have? - March 31st 2009, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ThereIsHope View Post
The reasons he provides for us are all throughout the Bible, particularly the New Testament.
This is circular reasoning. God exists because God says he exists. Doesn't work.

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Hypersonic: I target anyone who presents things as fact with no empirical evidence to attribute to them

Suniesha: So you also target the people who believe in the Big Bang?
This makes absolutely no sense.

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Who made that law? Who made the person that made that law? Who made they're family? Who made all this? I can't help but not believe that someone didn't make the world. I think God did. What I was saying is that not any other religion is really being targeted here besides Christians.
I think you should read the first post of this thread:

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So, a lot of times, when religion is mentioned, especially on TeenHelp, there are people that demand proof at every single debate. And that's not a bad thing, but if I'm arguing for Christianity and you're arguing that there is no god, now it's your turn to prove it. No, I can't prove with scientific facts that God is, indeed, real, but neither can you prove that he's not real.

I've heard that Christians are delusional. I've heard it said that Christians are crazy or insane for praying because it's just them "talking to no one". I've heard brainwashing. Speaking in tongues being of demons. All kinds of things.

Proof? Prove that there is no god. Prove that faith isn't the answer. Prove that you're right and every Christian in the world and I are wrong.
Hopefully now you understand why christianity is a main focus in this debate.


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Technically you can prove gravity.. I personally don't believe the big bang, I believe that Jesus came down to die for our sins..

& I'm gonna leave it at that.
And why aren't the 2 incompatible?

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You misunderstood me, although I do qualify that I should have been more clear. Like I asked, what scientific evidence is there that God does not exist? As in, which theories and laws are in direct disputation with the concept of God? To me personally, I find it insufficient to base my whole belief system on the assumption that because there is no "fire breathing unicorn that grants magical wishes" therefore automatically means there is no God.
Also I am not as knowledgable in scientific fields so I am curious of which theories support the God does not exist view. Other than, "It's just not possible." Which I find to be, again, insufficient.

Hence, being agnostic.
First law of thermodynamics: Energy cannot be created nor destroyed, yet god is able to create energy, as somehow, he made himself.

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HAHAHAHAHAHA,you people... Think whatever you want I know the way, the truth AND the life.. I don't need you're Theroies, if you don't believe then thats you're choice but I know whats right. Not the "big bang," thats not how the Universe or the Earth was made. That theroy was made so non-religious have something to argue about with the religious people.. people can't post things on here saying "How great is our God" without someone putting a snide message on there.. Its crap! Reply to this.. Idc anymore.
Ah, ignorance and arrogance at its best. Well, if you need no theories then I suggest you get no health care as medicine is based off of theories. Also, computers use electricity, which unfortunately is based off a theory, so you may want to toss that out. So, if you want to abandon all scientific theories, then that'd mean you live in the wilderness, you don't attempt to see what is poisonous or not, so eat anything, and so forth. Unless, of course, you accept certain theories, which would obviously make you a hypocrite. Your choice: ignorance, arrogance and hypocrisy or only arrogance and ignorance.

Yes, of course, the Big Bang was made so us non-christians (I love how you automatically associated religious people with Christianity, another show of arrogance) could use something to debate with christians [/sarcasm].

Very few have been putting in snide messages without giving some back-up when referring to your god.