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Re: Talking about religion - October 3rd 2012, 01:36 PM

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I cannot think of the exact scripture off the top of my head but there is one that says something along the lines of "It is by grace we are saved AFTER all we can do" If we are still here and alive and breathing we have done done everything we can do, we are not saved yet....If you look through the Bible you will see it talk about "salvation" rather then being saved. In this life we have been granted salvation...which is like I said before the process of being saved...ponder that for a min.
And go for it, study that chapter....but one thing I also suggest, pray about it, ask Heavenly Father to help you to understand, you believe in personal revelation right? Having the spirit be able to touch your heart and manifest truth unto you? Well I sure hope you do. Anyways what I am saying is ask in faith and with real intent what those verses and what that chapter means...He will help you.
I've never heard of that verse. The only thing similar I've read is that we'll receive the crown of life after all that we've done...but that's not because we're not saved until then, it's just because we don't get the actual crown until we're in Heaven. Salvation doesn't have to mean a long process of being saved. That is one definition, but another one is "the state of being saved", meaning that you are already saved and in that state. It has 4 different dictionary meanings.

And yes, I always pray for understanding before reading the bible (or anything related to God). I'm going to have to actually research the background and history of this chapter too, because I want to know what made Paul write that and what exactly he was referring to. My youth pastor has this really neat history book of the bible, so I'm going to check there and see if it mentions it. It has the history of every chapter, so it should.
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