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Re: Talking about religion - September 26th 2012, 03:10 AM

I'm an Agnostic Theist which I consider to be a very open-minded perspective. I believe that there is some kind of super natural, but I believe that there's no way of knowing. A lot of the religion debates have been between Catholics/Christians vs. Atheists. Typically, I don't see arguments between religions. I tend to stay away from Atheist vs. Christian "discussions," because they all have pretty much ended the same way:

1. Christian presents valid argument from quoting the Bible
2. Atheist presents valid argument, mentions something about science, and the fact that you can't SEE a supernatural being.
3. Christian mentions belief and not necessarily needing to have any facts.
4. Both of them start throwing out random shit escalating into an argument. "How can you believe in God if you can't see him?" "This is what's wrong with religion...shoving their opinions down people's throats..." "Christians are murderers...close-minded...can't present a valid argument on the belief of the existence of God..." Then once the Christian ends the discussion through frustration, the Atheist pretty much wins because

a) no one has evidence to prove God exists, but only evidence to prove that you can't disprove the existence of God. Even still, that argument will continue on and on until the Atheist is convinced that the Christian is a moron, possessed by the Devil, etc.
b) the very fact that a Christian would first end the discussion through frustration is proving a point (when it really doesn't) that religions have no credible evidence why they believe that the religion is true.

Atheists 300,000,000,000 and counting points against Christians 0 points while Christianity has a somewhat to do with a little something something called faith.

I think the discussions are effectively useless. It's really a conversation on the battle of wits. An Atheist might say "well good sir, do you know about NimoNomoKanata's perspective on religion? I very much like to hear your opinion on the matter." "Well, I think NimoNomoKanata's viewpoints are very similar to HoochiTomamama." And very rarely do people know about different perspectives and shit at an early age because...let's face it...up until you got a career and shit, you got other shit to learn...why the fuck would I want to spend time looking up different perspectives on the universe and shit. Maybe when I'm 60, retired, and have the time to look up every religious book known to man along with every perspective on life along with counterarguments on anti-theisms, monotheisms, polytheisms, and whatnot. You can sure as hell bet that I'll probably be doing that when I'm 60+ years old, because we are never going to find out whether God exists, who is right who is wrong, because we have only discovered a fraction of the truth. I only got 100 years, so none of us are going to see the end. Am I willing to have a discussion with anyone about religion? Not really...not because I'm close-minded, but because I know nothing about it. All I know is that I believe in God, and that's really all that fucking matters.
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