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Re: Trayvon Martin - April 1st 2012, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by girlfromsocal View Post
I think he murdered him intentionally because physically he had the upperhand. They're in a fight he can easily pretend he's losing and kill him pretending it's self-defense...
You have no possible understanding of the rapidity of violence. You think Zimmerman shouldn't have shot Martin because Martin was smaller than him? You think that size matters in a fight? You think Zimmerman should have refused to use force because he should have been able to get "the better of" the smaller Martin?

No. Fuck no. Size means jack and shit.

Just because a guy is smaller and you are carrying a holstered firearm, that does not in any way shape or form mean you have "won the fight". That does not even qualify as "the upperhand". There are a massive number of factors be be taken into account there. Your reasoning does not even work in theory, let alone in practice. I've seen little guys fuck up big guys. I've seen lots of guys get fucked up one one little guy. I've seen a crowd get their asses beaten into submission by a single carload of cops. Hell, I've even been the "little guy" going up against multiples guys much better armed than I was. Your reasoning is screwed. Lay off the 'shrooms, or whatever it is they do there in SoCal.

Martin being on top of Zimmerman, throwing punches downwards, qualifies as use of lethal force in my own mind. You better believe that a man can be killed that way. Intent is a far bigger problem than actual physical capability. A ten year old with a meat cleaver trying to kill me is a far greater threat than a gunman who doesn't have the intent.

If Martin threw the first punch, and was then on top of Zimmerman continuing to throw hits, he's showing intent to fuck up Zimmerman. At that stage, it's time to go loud.

I can't be fucked arguing the Martin vs Zimmerman bullshit anymore.

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Please Watch your language. That is not at all acceptable.

FYI, TeenHelp.

Knives. One more reason why you never disregard the little guy. Always assume that anybody showing hostile intent towards you is carrying a concealed weapon. Knife, screwdriver, whatever. If you are carrying a firearm, your safety radius is 7m. Ie, anybody with a knife within 7m will KILL YOU before you can draw and effectively use your firearm. Knives are very quick to draw, very fast and easy to use, and will do a lot of damage. If you are lucky (Ie, the guy in this picture below) the attacker will be a slasher. If he's inexperienced and slashing, you have a good chance of surviving. If he's a stabber, you're fucked. I would rather be shot than stabbed. You have better chances of surviving a gunshot.

[Edited]That isn't appropriate to post here.

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Last edited by Rob; April 2nd 2012 at 08:23 PM. Reason: Rudeness.