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Re: Trayvon Martin - March 28th 2012, 02:41 AM

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No, he's thug material because he wears gold grills, is tatted up and has a thug attitude. Modern "black culture" is almost synonymous with "thug culture" these days anyways.




You're expressing racist and prejudical views here! Those things interfere with ones ability to objectively assess the facts. It's not illegal to wear a hoodie, etc., and it is most certainly NOT "Probable cause to believe someone is involved in illegal activity, nor does it then allow someone to stop and confront. Laws, not emotion.





Being the minority doesn't mean Jesse Jackson and the rest of the media gets to claim this is a war on blacks, call Trayvon a "martyr" and not get called out on their bullshit. Being the minority doesn't mean any violence against you is automatically due to the color of your skin. Being in the majority doesn't mean you're automatically guilty of a hate crime because "your life is better due your skin color". It's when innocent people are condemned due to this is what I have a problem with, whether in this case, Tawana Brawley, or any other falsely alleged racial crime.



Sadly, though, in the absence of any legal probable cause to suspect him of illegal activity, we can only assume the confrontation was based on his being black. The tactics in response to this by Sharpton, et. al., don't change these facts.




I'm sorry black people, but you have nothing to fear from whitey... or even hispanic-whitey. You are not "under attack" by whitey. As much as some of you desperately wish you were innocent, helpless victims of whitey's racist campaign of tyrannical, violent oppression against you... you're just not.Absence of clear data? - Zimmerman's wounds are in the police report I posted earlier. His fucking arrest is in there - The entire BASIS for this "Trayvon movement" is based off the fallacy that Zimmerman was let go at the scene. Whoever started the fight isn't my conclusion, it's Zimmerman's account, which I happen to believe (parts of). "By all accounts Zimmerman instigated it". Who's accounts?




What are YOU so angry about? Historically, black people have been subjected to insults and humiliations large and small based on their skin color. generations of frustration at the system's inability..and often complicity...in providing equal protection under the law often results in emotionality at yet another injustice. You're right that all whites are not racist, but it would be good to acknowledge the historical perspective that results from oppression, especially in the south.





If it is in fact true that Trayvon attacked Zimmerman from behind, will you still be blaming Zimmerman's "unnecessary racially profiled approach" for the cause of the shooting, or Trayvon's temper? If it's the former I might as well just give up now.





The facts, which are NOT in dispute, is that a young black man was walking down the street after visiting a relative and was stalked by a large latino in an SUV, who stopped his truck, got out with his gun clearly visible (he was wearing a holster) and approached the young black man without any authority to do so...and in all probability in a confrontational manner. Those actions are clearly menacing, and the 'Stand your ground' law could have easily been used by the young black man to defend himself against a stranger who was clearly threatening him with a gun, no authority, and no probable cause to suspect any wrong doing on his part. Picking a fight with a stranger and then losing doesn't allow you to shoot someone dead on the grounds of self defense.







And even I think he's guilty of a crime, and I'm arguing this? Jesus.




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