[Grey Wind]

Originally Posted by Maverick.

I can't believe you guys actually think Travyon instigated this whole ordeal. I have no comment towards that. Just because it's a young black boy, he's automatically labeled to be "Thug Material"? Jesus.

No, he's thug material because he wears gold grills, is tatted up and has a thug attitude. Modern "black culture" is almost synonymous with "thug culture" these days anyways.

Originally Posted by Marguerite

Not being from the US I know little about this, but the anti-PC brigade really piss me off on issues like this. Majority have an opinion on something? Quick, take the opposite one! Don't worry about what it is or if it has no basis of fact. Just make sure you can talk about how hard it is to be white! Because we all know how hard it is to be the majority.

Black teenager shot? Clearly white people are the victims.
Another example of feminazis, PC morons and minorities trying to keep the white man down!!!!!111!!!1!

Being the minority doesn't mean Jesse Jackson and the rest of the media gets to claim this is a war on blacks, call Trayvon a "martyr" and not get called out on their bullshit. Being the minority doesn't mean any violence against you is automatically due to the color of your skin. Being in the majority doesn't mean you're automatically guilty of a hate crime because "your life is better due your skin color". It's when innocent people are condemned due to this is what I have a problem with, whether in this case, Tawana Brawley, or any other falsely alleged racial crime.

I'm sorry black people, but you have nothing to fear from whitey... or even hispanic-whitey. You are not "under attack" by whitey. As much as some of you desperately wish you were innocent, helpless victims of whitey's racist campaign of tyrannical, violent oppression against you... you're just not.

Originally Posted by Dr.Bobby

Caliber, you know, I don't have a dog in this fight. It is curious to me how people take a relatively ambiguous situation and come to such strong conclusions, in the absence of clear data. That says much more about us, and it's an opportunity to learn something about yourself. Why are you more able to understand the perspective and actions of Zimmerman, who by all accounts instigated the confrontation, instead of the victim?

Absence of clear data? - Zimmerman's wounds are in the police report I posted earlier. His fucking arrest is in there - The entire BASIS for this "Trayvon movement" is based off the fallacy that Zimmerman was let go at the scene. Whoever started the fight isn't my conclusion, it's Zimmerman's account, which I happen to believe (parts of). "By all accounts Zimmerman instigated it". Who's accounts?

If it is in fact true that Trayvon attacked Zimmerman from behind, will you still be blaming Zimmerman's "unnecessary racially profiled approach" for the cause of the shooting, or Trayvon's temper? If it's the former I might as well just give up now.

And even I think he's guilty of a crime, and I'm arguing this? Jesus.