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Re: College Protest against Proposed Califorinia Bill to Allow Colleges to consider ethnicity/gender in Admissions - September 28th 2011, 06:48 AM

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It doesn't mean that if you're born black you're automatically disadvantaged and won't be able to get into university.
...that's the point you've been making the entire time. That it disadvantages you because you're not white.

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Ethnicity isn't the problem, but it's the common factor that links a lot of disadvantage together. If someone is black and born into a nice middle class household, they're obviously going to have a leg up over someone who is white and born into poverty. Which is why finacial disadvantage is also considered in admission practices/scholarships.
Exactly, which is why race needs to be taken out of it, and financial situation needs to be stressed so much more.

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The point is that being born (I'm going to say Aboriginal rather than black, because you're talking about this in an American context and I don't want to make stuff up) means that you're more likely to live in poverty, to not go to school, to have bad health, to be illiterate, to not have anyone in your close family who has attended university. You can't just ignore those things, I don't know why you keep trying too.
My problem is that by using race, we are automatically assuming people are going to have an issue because of the color of their skin. If someone is born into the situation you described above, their race shouldn't have anything to do with it. They should get the same amount of help regardless. It should not matter if said person is black or white

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As for the whole scholarship thing, it's not just about scholarships, it's about an education. I'm not saying one generation of scholarships or university admission or education is going to stop disadvantage. I'm just saying that the children of those qualified, educated parents are not going to face the same problems that their parents probably did.
But by your definition, their parents wold have nothing to do with it, it would depend entirely upon their skin color.


Do you see the point I'm trying to make here? To each according to his individual need, not color.


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