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Originally Posted by Sapphire_Wings
I have seen very little of this, would you like to bring forward some examples please.
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The "
I get a lot of guff from Atheists" thread is one recent example, as shown by Nat's response to it. If you would like I can find more.
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Originally Posted by Sapphire_Wings
To verify this I have only your word right now.
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See above.
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Originally Posted by Sapphire_Wings
It was null and void from the viewpoint of arguments over nothing since you yourself just admitted you don't see that. So really you are changing your statement. That is not what I was debating and simply changing your stance and trying to use it as a correction for a faulty statement makes my original argument no less true.
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With respect, that is incorrect - there is a difference between starting a thread with a view merely to causing an argument, which is what you referred to, and an argument developing over something broadly immaterial, which is what I referred to in making that comment. The latter is what is generally defined as an "argument over nothing" - the former is generally defined as "flaming". There is a difference, and if you wish to have proof of that I would point you in the direction of Google. As such, I maintain my stated position until such a time as you can provide grounds for me to change it, and for your contention that it is a "faulty statement" which at present is not supported by the definition of either term.
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Originally Posted by Sapphire_Wings
This can be seen from two points. 1. You should verify as we cannot see what you were thinking when you wrote this.
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I was thinking in the context of the general "arguing over nothing", which I was of the view was a fairly well understood concept. I did not have any particular example argument in mind as I felt the concept speaks for itself.
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Originally Posted by Sapphire_Wings
2. Debates evolve over time and many arguments do stem from the original question. Therefore while some would view the arguments as nothing to do with the debate they may very well have if you have followed the thread.
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Agreed - however, I was not referring merely to debates going off-topic. I do spend enough time reading the threads to understand how it has gotten to a certain stage. What I am referring to is when a thread gets derailed onto a heated tangent which does not further the thread itself and merely causes offence or upset, often followed by closure.
As we are ourselves at risk of taking this off-topic, I would advise that should you wish to discuss this further we do so elsewhere.