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Originally Posted by Megan1

I didn’t mean 100% evidence that can prove it without any doubt, obviously that doesn’t exist or everyone with a brain would be a Christian. It’s more evidence like…..if He wasn’t God, these things would be the biggest coincidences ever. Things like all of the prophecy that He fulfilled without even trying (like being killed on the cross, betrayed by His own people, pierced with a sword on one side, having people gamble for His clothes, etc). There is definite evidence that it was predicted hundreds of years earlier that the Messiah would have that happen to Him, there is definite evidence that Jesus had that happen to Him, and there is definite evidence that Jesus claimed to be the Messiah. So from there, you have to decide if you believe that He was God or if you believe that it was the biggest coincidence to ever happen. There is SO much more evidence like that (most of which isn’t 100% evidence but still makes it really obvious that He is God), that was just one example. I can’t think of a lot of them off the top of my head, but it’s all in the book The Case for Christ if any of you have any desire to read it….although you probably don’t.

Then it seems you are using words you don't understand. Science does not prove anything 100% because part of its premise is falsifiability. The fact you're saying you cant show it is 100% when asked to give the scientific evidence you mentioned, means there never was any scientific evidence in the first place.

Your argument that if god didn't do it, then everything would be such a coincidence is a pathetically poor argument, with no evidence at all, it's purely a hypothetical philosophical idea without evidence. Could it be a coincidence? Sure it could. The simplest example is pharmacology. Many medications either were being designed for something else yet found to be poor for that but great for another unforeseen purpose. For example, some of the initial anti-psychotic medications weren't made to be anti-psychotics. They were meant as anasthetic medications because back then, many patients undergoing surgeries had a high chance of dying just from that. As part of testing the medications, they gave it (like many medications at that time) to patients in the psychiatric ward. Some of these were found to be not great anaesthetics but amazing anti-psychotics. Purely a coincidence, completely accidental and unforseen.

Point is, although there can be coincidence and odds not in one's favour, they don't mean something cannot occur. Saying that something exists because it's unlikely the product would be there without it although there are other methods but less likely, does not exclude the fact those other less likely things could occur and be responsible.

Instead of suggesting I read a book, could you give some arguments from that book seeing as how you know the book better than I do.

Originally Posted by Megan1

And again, I know for 100% certain in my soul that Jesus is God; I would believe that just the same even if there was absolutely no evidence. I’m just explaining the evidence because you asked. And I'm not going to debate about whether or not Jesus is God, because I know it by faith not by evidence- therefor I have no way to debate.

As mentioned above, I asked for the scientific evidence you claimed. So far I've yet to see you say anything remotely resembling scientific evidence. Believing in something on blind faith is not scientific either.

Originally Posted by Megan1

Actually, I have learned a lot about the universe/world since becoming a Christian. God does grant knowledge and understanding; the bible even says so. No I don't know every detail about the universe and how it works, but nobody does reguardless of if you believe in Christianity or scientology or anywhere in between. But I do know just as much about the universe as an average person my age who doesn't believe in God. The bible explains and/or proves pretty much everything. The book The Case for a Creator explains a lot of that too- it is pretty much a book that gives scientific evidence and background to how God created the Earth and such.

Given your previous inability to say something scientific despite claiming it was scientific, I'm skeptical if that book has anything scientific in it. I don't doubt you learned stuff about the universe since being a Christian, however, I do doubt the nature of the information you learned. For example, I doubt you knowing much about biological evolution. Perhaps you can define what it is but beyond that I doubt it.

Originally Posted by Megan1

And I mean....yes you still have to walk by faith and not by sight, but the bible DOES back up mostly everything on this Earth. It doesn't go at all against it anyways.

There is no doubt the bible attempts to back up what it says, however, much of what is on Earth, the bible never even mentions. The way it backs anything up, other than perhaps giving a verse, is saying "god did done it" to whatever the item is. For example, does the bible mention human-invented, pharmacological medications for many illnesses? Not really, doesn't mention anything specific. But, the bible can of course say "god did done make pharmacological medications" by re-iterating the same umbrella statement to everything. So much of what it can back up, it cannot describe in more detail.

Originally Posted by Megan1

I know that Jesus is God, but just for the sake of answering your question I am going to say this......If I was wrong about God, what would I loose? The only things that I would have missed out on are drunkeness, aimless dating, sex before marriage, getting to be mean to people when I want to, supporting gay marriage......um.........even if there wasn't a God, I'd trade all of that just for the church activities that I've gotten to participate in and the friends that I've made through church! So even if I was wrong (though I'm not), it would have been worth it.

LOL, look, if you're going to attempt to engage in hypothetical discussions, cut this attitude of saying "although I'm actually right". You cant form arguments or discussions on what might result from uncertainty to say in the next sentence, you're absolutely certain and not hypothetical. It seems impossible to have such discussions with you for this reason. I have my view on what I think will happen and I'm sticking with that yet I'm capable of putting that aside to have a hypothetical discussion on possible outcomes. You aren't and this isn't the first time, so for that reason, I'm not bothering to engage in such conversations, it's going to be a waste of my time and mental effort. I'll respond to the rest that isn't hypothetical because you seem moderately capable of that.

Originally Posted by Megan1

But either way, don't you think that if any god existed, whether it be my God or not, that since the god would rule over everything and everyone, they would be poweful enough to go beyond science? That really is a quality for all gods anyways.

Nope, it's not a quality for all gods. In sects of theistic Satanism, science is not viewed as undermining the gods or as gods undermining science.

Originally Posted by Megan1

Nowhere in the bible does it say to stop searching for answers. It says to search for answers, and it says to trust in God and He will give you answers to the things that you need to know.

That seems contradictory to say to search for answers yet a conscious being will tell you the answers of what it thinks you should know. That's more like reading a textbook, you learn of what is in the textbook. The authours know more and could have put more in but chose not to. However, reading a textbook isn't the same as saying to stop searching for answers because the textbook can only answer some questions, it may also generate questions.

Originally Posted by Megan1

I have learned how the bible says everything works.....and then looked to see if it could all be true based on what we know for 100% sure about our Earth.....and none of it could be disproven.

So you investigated the scientific mechanisms of certain things in as much detail as possible to see if it coincides with what the bible says? Come on, that's nonsense. For starters, you've seem to not know what science is. To give an example of what you should know to see if the bible coincides, you should investigate all aspects of biological evolution, both at a molecular genetic, comparative and ecological levels. Are you going to tell me you know everything about that, everything about how organisms originated, how certain features formed from other features, how they were used in the environment and the environmental pressures? Researchers who have PhDs in the field cant all do that. If you truly are that brilliant, then publish in the scientific literature.

Originally Posted by Megan1

I know that not all of the bible can't be proven as fact, but I also know that none of it can be disproven.

This makes no sense. You're saying some can be disproven yet all of it is proven. It's saying "some socks are black but all are white". Cant happen, it all are write (i.e. none disproven), none can be black (i.e. proven).