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Originally Posted by mIssIng:nO

Wrong, completely wrong.

As the Bible or any holy book is just guidelines on how to live, its the PEOPLE who blow it way out of context and start the fights/wars/disputes/pain, what ever you want to call it.

Religion its self, is a GREAT thing, as most religions MAINLY preach peace and love as the main "aspect" of the religion, like if someone believes that the bible says it separates some people, thats because thats how the person takes it, not because the book says its in fact.

That doesn't make religion great; religion can only be great if it produces something greater than a secular society would. I see no reason to think that religion increases the amount of love and peace in the world, and many reasons to think that it diminishes them.

Originally Posted by mIssIng:nO

I believe a main problem with religion is people look into is a scientific fact, that everything in the book is set in stone and thats it. When really, if people just took the message from what ever religion they took that living in harmony is the main point of living life, then we wouldn't have this problem.

Messages like "homosexuality is evil" and "women should be subservient to men" and "non-believers go to hell" and "humanity is sinful and deserves punishment"? Abrahamic religions preach love and peace, at times, but they contain many ugly messages as well. It's the latter that atheists object to. If there were a religion that said only "Be nice to others and don't fight" and nothing else, I would have many fewer objections to that.

Originally Posted by mIssIng:nO

Also, you make this claim as if everyone who is religious is extreme like that, once again, completely wrong.

I saw him make no such claim, nor have I ever met any atheist who does. I have however heard many fundamentalists insist that all atheists must be immoral.

Originally Posted by mIssIng:nO

Another thing, Athiests who look down on Religious people and feel they have a lack of intelligence for having faith in something that makes them live a happy life/ be a good person, then I don't see how you can feel you are any smarter. Lets see, this person is say, Hindu, and they happily live their life. How is there any lack of intelligence there, someone believes in something (that there is NO proof DOESN'T exist, or proof it DOES) makes them stupid?
Wow, I really can't see how you to come to that conclusion, but I'd imagine it takes a pretty narrow view point.

I have great respect for people who bother to educate themselves and think critically about the world; by definition then, I have less respect for people who don't. That you would say "no proof that it doesn't exist and no proof that it does" demonstrates that you don't understand the role that evidence and proof play in reasoning. Here are some other things for which there is neither proof for nor against: unicorns, faeries, leprechauns, Thor, Zeus, Sauron, Narnia, Atlantis, Klingons, etc. Essentially no one believes that any of those actually exist, and Yahweh is no more sensible a proposition.

Originally Posted by mIssIng:nO

Another thing, your screen name is a norse god (hey look, its something to do with religion!)
may wanna change that then, because religion is so evil, wouldn't want to associate with it.

No one subscribes to Norse mythology, so it's past the point of being able to do any harm. When the world regards Abrahamic religions as nothing but old folk tales, they too will become harmless.