[PhoenixAlive]

Originally Posted by ShimmeringFaerie

If a girl doesn't understand the possibilities of pregnancy from sex, then yes, she isn't mature enough to be having it. But she wouldn't know that. Why would a girl go and look up sex/pregnancy on the internet if they didn't know that there was anything to look up?

For instance, a 12 year old boy accidently walks in on his parents/older brother/sister/whoever having sex. Or he finds porn on an older sibling's computer. He goes over to his friend's house (a girl who is his age). He says "hey, I saw this thing on my brother's computer last night. Want to try it?" And there you go. How is that their fault?

There are plenty of schools and parents who only teach abstinence. It's possible that they never mention the consequences of sex. Girls rely on their friends for information. And there are heaps of kids out there who think withdrawal is an appropriate method of birthcontrol. Or that you can't get pregnant on your first time. Or that you can't get pregnant if you are on your period. To us, those things are ridiculous and we know it. But some girls have no reason, that they can see, to doubt that information. Why would they look it up?

Fair enough, but I don't really see how this is relevent to the abortion debate as I have already stated that I condone abortion in girls 15 and younger, and I have never seen a high school that did not have a sexual education course.

Originally Posted by ShimmeringFaerie

Why let it get to the point where the mother is suicidal?

I have already explained this... What is it that you don't understand?

Originally Posted by ShimmeringFaerie

Also, I don't see how making someone go through with a pregnancy is a good idea. Even if it's their own fault for not using protection.

Firstly, there is always the fact that women will go and get illegal abortions and we know how risky they are. That's exactly what happens when abortion is made illegal and no matter what moral disagreements you have with it, they don't stand up against the fact that women would be dying or suffering other serious health problems because of it.

Secondly, if you make a woman go through with the pregnancy and give the baby up for adoption, what is the likelihood that she is going to take care of herself? If the woman doesn't care about the baby and is just carrying it because she has to, what is going to make her stop smoking or drinking or taking drugs? Then you end up with a severely disabled baby that you have to try and adopt out. It's just not going to work.

If women are so unstable that they will get illegal abortions, they should be in therapy. Women who are at legitimate risk from their pregnancies would not face this issue anyways. And at least this way, fewer people would die than with abortions being legal.

And also, pregnancies are all medically monitored. If a woman is seen be on drugs by her obstetrician and doesn't quit, she can be institutionalized for the remainder of her pregnancy to ensure her health and the baby's. There are many countries where abortion is not legal. It seems to work there.