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Edit avatar · **Re: Abortion??? -** April 10th 2010, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Toast

So in your opinion, abortion is illegal? Why aren't people getting arrested for it then?

I believe that abortion in most cases should be illegal yes, but it's not so of course people aren't being arrested for it. I just think it should be because I believe it is the same as murder.

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Originally Posted by ShimmeringFaerie

So abortion isn't murder if it's at less than 6 weeks? So basically you're saying that abortion is okay, it's just an issue of timing?

No, I'm saying that the baby doesn't have a heart yet, it isn't formed at all under six weeks so it is acceptable, not okay, to have an abortion at this point.

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Originally Posted by ShimmeringFaerie

Okay, I've never heard of a fetus being able to be transferred from one womb to another, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Would you care to provide some sort of website that details that procedure? However, it seems to me that there would be very few women in the world who would want to have a procedure like that. If they are in need of IVF, don't they usually use their own eggs?

Also, transferring the fetus still carries the issue of women seeing the baby as "a rapist's baby". There is still the issue of possible mental disorders and the child still carries that stigma. In cases where the women is simply too young or unfit or doesn't want the baby, this might be suitable; but, for pregnancies by rape, there are still all the same problems.

I cannot find a website unfortunately I may come back to finding one later when I have more time, currently I am doing art homework as well. I will find one though. I have read about people doing this in cases where IVF and GIFT have not been available.
And I don't think mental disorders normally contribute to people becoming rapists. You don't have to be a schizophrenic or have bipolar, or any other mental disorder, to be a sick person.

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Originally Posted by !!!YOU'RE$NUCKING$FUTZ!!!

First, we're all a bunch of cells so that's not an argument that applies only to the fetus. Second, the fetus is a human from the start because it has human DNA and was made by two humans. So why do you consider it a human then? Furthermore, before the time when you consider it a human, what do you consider it?

Okay, yes we are all a bunch of cells, maybe I should have found a better way of putting it. But the baby is not breathing until it is six weeks old. Therefore it is not alive, and abortion would not be killing it. It would still be preventing the baby from existing, and I still disagree with it, but I think it is more acceptable. And I consider a fetus under six weeks to be an embryo, a sac of cells not breathing.

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Originally Posted by !!!YOU'RE$NUCKING$FUTZ!!!

Does this happen in the majority of cases?

No it doesn't, but that doesn't change the fact that it can be done.