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Originally Posted by PunkRoxS9
Unfortunately I do not, so I will amend that. In my opinion, then, abortion is murder. I think if the baby is under 6 weeks then it is okay because at that point it is only a bunch of cells, and doesnt even have a heart. After that, it is human and therefore I think it is unnaceptable except in certain life threatening circumstances to have an abortion.
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First, we're all a bunch of cells so that's not an argument that applies only to the fetus. Second, the fetus is a human from the start because it has human DNA and was made by two humans. So why do you consider it a human then? Furthermore, before the time when you consider it a human, what do you consider it?
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Originally Posted by PunkRoxS9
Back to the rape baby thing, if you don't want to give it up for adoption and put the baby into care as they can be horrible places, then why not, early on, have the fetus transfered to another womens womb? This can be done, and you would not necessarily have to pay for it - the women who wants the baby usually does.
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Does this happen in the majority of cases?
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Originally Posted by PunkRoxS9
And I apologise for accusing people of attacking me, I was feeling a bit sensitive, I am sorry, the point of a debate is to argue pretty much.
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Well... yeah it's to argue in hopefully a civilized manner, what else would it be about?
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Originally Posted by emma01
An extra finger or toe is not a disease! is it?
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You said specifically a hereditary disease, which does include polydactyly and many other diseases that may be a social inconvenience but are not life threatening. So either you need to be specific in which hereditary diseases or you accept all or none of them as viable reasons for having an abortion.
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Originally Posted by emma01
Some women don't want to bring a baby into the world if it is going to be mentally challenged. I mean, yea thats not fair on the baby, and the mother wanted to get pregnant, but I can actually understand this. My mum works with a disabled kid, he's 10 and he's in nappies, he cant talk, he walks around looking at his hands all day going MA MA MA. Now what Kind of a life is that?
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A pretty shitty life. We have some houses near where I live and the people take in handicapped people, either mental or physical. One in particular is a very thin man, not sure how old but definitely an adult and his "fun" is going to the end of the drive-way and having the wind flap some little toy or paper or something small. I haven't talked to him so I don't know his conversational abilities but I'd imagine they're not very sophisticated.
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Originally Posted by emma01
Too young to take proper care of it without the assistance of others. Now I know that every women who has a baby needs some type of help. But some kids who have kids miss out on soo much school, and it screws up their life. They won't be okay financially, because they won't have a career. Its so stupid to have a baby in that case, but then for no real reason I don't agree with aborting the baby, even though im sure it would be best, i just cant agree!
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Why can you not agree? Putting aside the soon-to-be baby, the mother (and possibly father)'s lives as you mentioned are both flopped all around and their education, career and so forth are all delayed. For the baby, if they're in such an environment, then the mother's mother/father will need to take care of it but if they're busy, then it's day-care or having the mother's grandparents come into the picture. As you said, it'd be for the best and I agree with you on that but why can you not agree because your argument seems to be in favour of abortion in this case, not against it?