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Originally Posted by l0stCause
theres a difference between faith in somthing that can be proven and faith in sumthing that has no evidence
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Agreed, however, from the perspective of each individual person, faith is faith, it doesn't matter if it's of something with no evidence or something that has been reliably proven. For the individual, they have no evidence and that is what matters for them. For someone else, they may have evidence of that same thing but whenever faith is discussed, it's at the level of the individual only.
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Originally Posted by l0stCause
i believe my neighbor is a terrorist trying to blow me up i have no evidence but i believe it to be true so can i kill him? u see ppl need evidence in order to keep order
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I agree that people need evidence and I also agree with having evidence that points oneself into the general ballpark region versus specific evidence to reliably prove a specific thing. When faith is involved in this, there is a concern I have over how much evidence is needed to still have faith. In this universe we cannot prove anything to be 100% correct or false, so we have to establish a benchmark for how much evidence is needed for something to be considered to be based on faith. That is the question I pose to you.
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Originally Posted by l0stCause
i know that seems insane but it makes as much sence as religous ppl talking to a being they have no idea exists or not but religion has been around long enough that ppl just excet it and thats fucked up
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There's a difference between physically hurting or killing someone versus praying or talking to oneself. Religion can serve many purposes and one is simply to provide comfort to the individual, and people who badly want this comfort may not look for cold hard facts, they may simply observe what is used constantly and accept that. It's a fallacy of tradition. So, although there is no evidence for their perceived being(s) to exist, it seems for the most part to just be psychological in that they want this being to exist so they assume it exists. For the most part, it does no harm but in extreme cases, it does.