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Originally Posted by blueraider0
Show me where 1 happens in the gospels. Not the writings of the disciples afterwards, but where Jesus says it.
2: That is a wholly subjective belief. It is just as possible that Jesus believed the world was ending at that time and was, as have been all doom-claimers, quite wrong.
3. The women who discovered Jesus' tombs were doing typical women things, that is, mourning the dead. Mother Mary was the ideal mother, and Mary Magdalene was a prostitute who turned from her ways. These two types of women appeared in the ancient world all the time. They never do anything particularly unusual.
4. That comes long after Jesus is dead. Originally, Jesus was just unmarried. Also, I think that's a Catholic belief. Not all Christians believe Jesus to be "married" to the Church.
5. A) Where is this said. B) Why doesn't Jesus need to learn what love is? C) Doesn't Jesus love all people? Why is he married to the Church anyway? D) I'm not quite sure how this is relevant to what I was saying anyway.
When examining the Bible, we need to seperate what Jesus says, what the disciples say Jesus says, and what the disciples, themselves, say. Paul probably did more to shape Christian theology than Jesus ever did.
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1) Matthew 5, Matthew 19, Mark 10, Luke 16 for Jesus teachings on it and then its also discussed in 1 Peter 3, 1 Corinthians 7, and Ephesians 5. It's sparse throughout the new testament but in the Gospels Jesus talks about it.
2) Umm no, it's actually taught in 2 Peter 3
3) Back in society women have no validity in their claims, women counted as 1/3 of a man and it took two men to make a claim true, so if in fact the writers of the gospels were trying to brainwash people into believing there would have been 6 women and/or 2 men who arrived at the tomb first. So yes, it's quite extraordinary that two women found the empty tomb first -- imagine what society thought of these two when they were telling others that He has risen.
4) It is a Christian belief, I am baptist and several Churches I go to have taught it. Jesus never technically "died", after His resurrection He remained on the earth 40 days before His ascension. None the less is Jesus knew what love was there was no need for Him to be married if the relationship between Christ and the Church is supposed to be like a marriage relationship. Taught in Ephesians.
5) lol.... God is love. If in Ephesians marriage was designed that we may understand Christs love for the Church, than there was no need for Christ to marry if He understood what love for the Church was like. I'd have to do more studying on why He is married to the Church, but my guess there is a reason why is something to deal with God the Father desiring true worshippers, and I don't believe Christ is PHYSICALLY maried to the church, but it is used to describe His love and devotion that should be displayed in marriage so we have something to relate to and share with Christs love to understand Him better.