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Re: thoughts on science and religion - August 25th 2009, 09:13 AM

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Yes, the Bible says so. I'm not going to argue, but there are also genetic factors that God may have given man back then that were not passed down post flood.

There are many explanations for this both in Christian resources and non-Christian resource of possible reasons why people lived this long pre-flood. Both have very logical answers and reasoning behind it. If you wish to research it feel free. These answers also give reasons behind fossilization, and why the universe may appear billions of years old, when in fact may be much less. Personally I do not know how old the earth is but I do not believe it to be billions. Mainly by simple observations, for example... the moon is getting further and further from the earth each year. Which means if the earth is billions of years old this means that the moon at one point collided with the earth.

Whether you consider this absurd or not, there are many scholars both secular and Christian who believe the flood to be a fact, and that people lived much longer pre-flood than post flood. If you are truly interested there are resources out there that you can look up. And about the lunar cycle I was actually disagreeing with this. And as far as cancer etc, this can be explained if you look up resources. Basically it is the vast change of environmental issues that have caused these diseases. It is not possible that years were considered a lunar cycle if you read my example.

But coming from a Christian perspective...
Luke 18:27
"But He said, 'The things that are impossible with people are possible with God.'"
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You'll be pleased to hear that your belief that the moon collided with the earth is, in fact, the prevailing hypothesis in science on how the moon was formed. Why you seem to think it means the earth can't possibly be billions of years old because of that is beyond me.

Perhaps you thought that because the moon is moving away at an unspecified distance away from the earth each year, it automatically means that the earth is less than 10,000 years old. But until you've actually done the math to calculate the distance between the earth and the moon along with the rate at which the moon is moving further away while taking into account the effects of gravity and electromagnetic fields, you're just spouting random nonsense in sheer ignorance.

When you mention secular scholars, could you perhaps name a few? Or are you pulling these random "facts" out of your ass?

I'm also amused by your pathetic attempts to suggest that ancient humans lived longer than those of us living in the modern age. I mean, it sounds like you're suggesting that viruses and bacteria didn't even exist until post-flood. As if that wasn't ridiculous enough, you're also suggesting that ancient humans coincidentally never ran into any predatory animals that could easily have killed them. Then there's the lack of accidents, murder, starvation, and cancer. 500+ years with no problems whatsoever? Fat chance.

Without medicine and proper medical care, the smallest of things can easily kill a person. A small cut can get infected and cause you to lose the whole limb. Someone could kill you literally by coughing on you.

It's not enough to say that humanity won't survive without medicine, but it's certainly enough that the idea of someone living for over 500 years without medical science is about as likely as you enjoying a nice ice cream cone on the surface of the sun.


"I am the shadow cast by the light of science."

Last edited by Noctis; August 25th 2009 at 09:56 AM.