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The post was too long it had to be divided into 2 parts (sorry)
Just to be clear read the post above this before hand ^^
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Originally Posted by ~Emily~
Onion, I think what wey're getting at is that we want YOUR view, in your OWN words. Not just requoting scripture. We don't want to watch a 2 hour video, we want to know what your viewpoint is, spoken out of your mouth, choosing your own words.
I understand that your viewpoint is based on scripture, but say it a different way. Explain why the scripture is your view. Not just that it is.
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AGAIN READ THE POST ABOVE THIS FIRST IF YOU HAVE NOT; THIS IS A CONTINUATION
Emily, I have provided all of these things you asked for. Perhaps you skipped through some of my posts. I have provided my view, I have provided my own words. The thing is, my words are based on Scripture because it is what I believe. Just like people use science, to apply what they believe to this thread. There is no difference. I suggested the two hour video, because if you truly want scientific proof that points to a God as opposed to science, this video already provides information that you require me to present that is already presented. I've shared my view point, on several accounts, and in my words. I base my views off scripture, because I have faith in them, just like people here have faith in science, and the big bang theory. I however, believe that the scriptures, when examined properly are historically accurate, scientifically accurate, they are prophesied accurately, and they provide for me answers that science cannot. If you chose to disagree with me, well that is great. I disagree with the big bang theory. Our lives are all based on decisions. You see disproving or proving science or God cannot be and will NEVER be proven, completely or 100% of the way. There may be indications that lead to one or the other, but there will always be questions you can ask. For example, if you believe the big bang theory, well there was a ball and dust, and other particles, well, okay... but where did those come from? And I believe in God? Now you ask where did God come from? Well, I don't know but the Bible says that He was always there, He will always be there, and is currently there. He is never changing because He does not have age. Now, what is more irrational? Believing in a God, or believing in some particles that were always there? Basically what is more absurd, nothing created everything? or a Creator created everything? You see, I am on the side of logic, and believe a creator made everything. Simply because, I can examine a car, I look at a car, I know a car needs a creator. Whether mechanical or not, if a car was a living creature, I would still believe in needed a creator. Just like I believe trees needed a creator, planets needed a creator, the earth needed a creator, I needed a creator. And if you believe the big bang theory, well that ball, and that dust, and those particles, and those elements used to create the planets or the planets used to create the elements, even though in the big bang theory only hydrogen and helium were made, and some how fused past iron and made several other elements, you still need a creator. You look at a human body, it is far more complex then a car, if I can assume a car needs a creator, would it be absurd to believe a human being needs a creator, being more complex then a car? Or did I just evolve from a blob that was created by an explosion in space? I guess I'm just on the side of logic, as I said, and this is why I believe the Bible. And because, like I said, have had a extreme change in life style since I have become saved. And before I didn't believe in God, and I didn't believe someone truly knew they were a Christian wen they became saved, and I wanted nothing to do with God, yet some how I ended up a Christian, and now I know it my heart, that God exists, and "te spirit confirms with my spirit" (Romans 8:14-16) that I am saved, and I know my faith rest securely with God (John 10:28). You see I have provided all these answers. Yet you all still say the same thing. And is clear as the Bible says that none of you have a problem with me but you have a problem with God (John 7:7), and no matter what I say, I cannot convert you. I can plant the seed, and God does the rest. And I trust He will, just as He did with me. And if not, when you stand before God at your judgment, you have no excuse before Him on why you didn't believe, because I have provided these verses and all this information before you, and when you meet Him, He will bring you back to this day, when you rejected His word, and if it has been presented to you before this, He will show you that day. And I have and will continue to pray for all of you, that you will see the truth, and at least one of you will become saved...
It has been an interesting discussion, or argument, whichever you prefer. And you have grown my faith tremendously, and I thank you all for this. If anyone has more question's about becoming saved or anything else, I will be glad to answer, as I hope even one person realizes their need for God through this, and I trust He used me wisely, and if anything else I have planted the seed, and God will allow it to grow as He wishes (Mark 4:1-20). If it is to rebuke me, I will not reply. I hope at least some of this caught your attention. And maybe as I can see that you are already interested in finding things wrong with Hovinds arguments, I am glad to see I have at least provoked your thought on this matter, and hopefully Christ will lead you to Salvation. I will not be posting on this thread anymore as I have provided on several accounts of references to the Bible, and how to become saved, which is my duty as a believer. Again, please forgive me if I have come of rude, or angry through out this process. I trust God will do His work in someones life through this. However, the Bible says in:
Ezekiel 3:27b
"'Thus says the Lord GOD.' He who hears, let him hear; and he who refuses, let him refuse; for they are a rebellious house."
God Bless.