[Dasha]

Originally Posted by onion

And this is your argument:

"Well because you aren't saying the words yourself I can't believe it".

That is not my argument. I find no argument valid without credible sources. But I am not here to listen to HIS argument, I am here to listen to YOURS. If I want to debate with the man, I will send him an email. If you can't sum up his video, or high points of it in a few sentences, then maybe you don't know exactly what he is saying. Just because you can link a video does not mean you fully understand what is in it. People can say, "read this verse or chapter of the bible," but they don't fully understand it. If I am going to debate with someone, I want to hear them quote that verse AND then talk about what they believe it means.

Again, I am not here to debate with him, I am here to debate with you. When I debate with others, I don't use purely their knowledge in my arguments. I use mine as well.

If there is only so much you can say in a debate, then there is only so much you can say. Study more and come back when you can say more, don't refer someone to something else because you can't articulate what you mean. I can do the same thing and send you off to watch other people's videos and read other people's books. But its not my argument anymore, it becomes theirs. I can not argue or debate with you about someone elses views, because they are simply someone else's views. Even if you understand their argument does not mean you fully understand their view on things unless you are truly them.