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Originally Posted by onion

1) I'm not arguing. I posted what I believe and why. The topic is can you believe in religion basing it off of science, and being that I believe in religion I am including my opinions.

Nothing wrong with that.

Originally Posted by onion

2) My argument isn't that everything is too complex, therefore a designer needs to be there. This is my belief. If you tell me a wrist watch formed from an explosion, and evolved into a ticking piece of matter over billions of years, and now keeps track of time, I wouldn't believe you.

I wouldn't believer that something exploded and randomly made something to keep track of time either.

Originally Posted by onion

3) I'm not playing the saddened card, I want everyone to be saved. Every post I've made is an offer for someone to come to Salvation. You're rebuking me for telling how I fee, when the topic is again "Can you look at religion scientifically, and still believe God exists". I've said NO. Believing in God is off of Faith and Faith a lone. You can however take science and conclude an intelligent design, and assume there is a Creator, but you cannot take science and prove that the God of the Bible is God. However, because of personal experience, and my Faith I know who the true God is. And these arguments are illegitimate because nothing in the Bible is based off of a feeling you have towards God, it's a knowledge and a Faith. If you can show me a reference where you "feel" like God is real, or you "feel" changed, or "feel" saved. Please direct me. Believing in God, isn't about making yourself feel better, as the authors posts assumes. It is about bringing Glory to God.

If you take science and conclude that there is a Creator then you're starting to distort science. Concluding that there is a creator isn't a scientific because it's not falsifiable, you cannot test for it. You can conclude that there is a Creator but not through science. Why you then say you cant prove the god in your bible is real through science is beyond me as that's essentially the same thing as saying there's a creator.

Originally Posted by onion

4) I did not cite a movie. I said read about the crucifixion and for those who hate reading the Bible simply watching a movie imposing the same concept, because the things portrayed in the movie, are in the Bible.

You mentioned for people to watch the movie if they wish. Perhaps you didn't cite it, however, you did encourage it.

Originally Posted by onion

5) Human's know so little, yes. This is why we believe science is wrong. When you become saved your spirit is replaced with a Holy Spirit, which in essence is God. He makes Himself known to us and we to Him. When you become saved something changes inside of you where you know God is real.

This is dancing away from my question. If humans know so little, then how do you know your god indeed is the real god, is the truth, etc...? You said you have so little faith in humans and yet, you have so much faith in a book the humans wrote. That is not what I'm understanding.

Originally Posted by onion

6) My responds weren't only to you. Please read other people's post before you assume too much.

I did read other people's posts. To make it easier on others, could you mention the user you're referring to? Otherwise it's ambiguous as to who you're responding to.

Originally Posted by onion

7) You keep asking me God isn't angry? I've said it over and over. GOD IS AN ANGRY GOD; GOD IS A JEALOUS GOD. HELL IS DIVINE PUNISHMENT AND SEPARATION OF AND FROM GOD. Fortunately He offered a way out of it.

Fine, then he isn't a fair and just judge.

Originally Posted by onion

Now, as I've said please. Message me. It seems your questions are not even providing any theory or fact on anything science or why you believe what you do, simply just rebuking my statements by common fallacy of man. And in turn trying to talk down upon what I believe. So if you in turn do have something other than statements that aren't turning this topic into a joke; please ask. I give my sincere and honest answers. But I am not going to respond to these remarks, that are simply redundant, and have been answered several times, just to receive the same answer back.

In all fairness, you haven't answered all the questions I posed to you. I can simply refute your posts and don't need to formally say what I believe.

However, to be fair, I'll do it anyways. I was a former Christian, turned to Theistic Satanism (briefly) then to LaVeyan Satanism. At this point, I adhere to atheism with some philosophies drawn from LaVeyan Satanism and Christianity. I don't worship any god and I'm not planning to in the future. I dabbled a bit with and still do dabble a bit here and there learning more about demonaltry, however, I would not by any stretch of the imagination consider myself a formal demonaltrist.