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Originally Posted by Annoni
Hmm. True enough, I guess, but missing key parts. It's the salvation that matters the most.
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Why is salvation more important than the peacefulness, mercy, compassion, etc...? I think that they're all equally important but please explain your stance.
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Originally Posted by Annoni
The OP asked about mixing with the Christian God, and I am forming my responses with that in mind. Let's just look how this works out from the beginning.
Bible: In the beginning, God...
OP: In the beginning, the god that I imagine...
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I don't see why it wouldn't be alright. The
OP isn't destroying the beliefs of salvation, peace, mercy, compassion, etc... . There is now the idea of resurrection but still most of the christian belief is there.
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Originally Posted by Annoni
Not true, really. Perfection is separation from imperfection. Perfection is not perfection at imperfection in part. I don't know how to make that more obvious. In extremes the opposite is not always true by relation or association to the extreme.
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You're right on the definition of perfection. But you're ignoring the premise of my argument, which is the idea that god is perfect at every single possible thing (calling onto the idea of all-powerful if you want also). So by that, he must be perfect at imperfection because he is perfect at every thing. You cannot say he is perfect at everything except for imperfection. That's a contradiction.
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Originally Posted by Annoni
Whoa, okay, you're far off track here. God did not commit any sins. At all! And yes, God's fury and rage is mentioned, but He loves His Creation and is angry with the sin, not the people.
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LOL the underline shows you agreeing with what I said. It is anger nonetheless as the verse didn't specify the target of the anger. If you read my entire post on that section, you'd have seen that it read:
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It does not matter if god hates the sin of the person or the person in general, it is hatred and dislike either way
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So, seeing as how you have supported my argument, the only thing that is left is your argument for why god cannot sin. Ideally, try to present your argument without using circular reasoning, bare assertion fallacy and such.
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Originally Posted by Annoni
Took that into account. Perfection is away from imperfection, imperfection is not found with perfection in actions or anything else by perfection.
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The problem still stands that you ignored the premise for the perfection so you simply give me the definition of perfection.
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See what I've said quite a few times now about God not being able to have a connection or relationship with sin. He doesn't decide for us to suffer endlessly.
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Wait... so if god doesn't decide for us to go to hell, then who is judging? It cant be god so please explain this.
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Originally Posted by Annoni
You see, since the beginning, Satan has envied God, and in His envy He wants to destroy God's creation, so Satan brought sin into our lives that is detestable to God. Actually, my girlfriend read a book that somewhat has this in it.
"Being unable to defeat God through raw power. Satan's legions decide to wound God as deeply as possible by stealing the love of his beloved through seduction, and having seduced them to his party, to ravage them body and soul, and having ravaged them to mock them, even as they are hurled to the depths of hell with God himself unable to save them because to their rejection of him. This is Satan's motivation and goal for every man, woman, and child into whom God ever breathed the breath of life, Like a roaring lion, he hungers for us"
His beloved, that is us, that is the people in the world. Soak it in. Satan is the perpetrator.
"Evil is not the point. The point is the love story. We live in a love story that is set in the midst of a war. When you understand those two things, you will suddenly understand Christianity, and you will understand your own life."
The war, that is the war on the spiritual level, the war between good and evil.
The love, that is the love from God
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All of this simply is a biased view on Satan and on God. Essentially, whenever there's something bad you point the finger and say "SATAN, it was him all along" and whenever there's something good, you point the finger and say "GOD, it was him all along". That's all that the above quotes you gave are showing except it's constructed into a nice fancy story.
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Originally Posted by Annoni
Related verses:
John 10:10 :: The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.
1 Peter 5:8-9 :: Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. Resist him, standing firm in the faith, because you know that your brothers throughout the world are undergoing the same kind of sufferings.
James 4:7 :: Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
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Some of these verses can teach good morals. However, I'd rather have your explanation and your interpretations instead of you tossing me a bunch of biblical passages. I'm not interested in what the bible has to say, if I were, then I'd read it myself. I'm interested in what you have to say.