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Re: Belief in God without Religion? - July 11th 2009, 02:14 AM

Let me just point an argument out, you can shoot it down or chose to do whatever you with it, and this is mainly for Lugez, and this isn't out of spite, this is simply to provoke your thought process.

You just said you want people to think for themselves, apart from what a book says.

All of History is faith. Chose what you will with this, facts or no facts. It's all faith. You say take a Geology course, I have. Is not the very thing these courses teach you based off a book, and other peoples opinions and studies? I will not get into arguing the age of the earth because truthfully no one knows. There's evidences for the Biblical approach and there's evidences for a scientific approach but none the less you would have to exist since day one of the universe to truly know the answer without a shadow of a doubt, so whatever you chose to believe is based off the opinions of others, and their studies... which is in turn FAITH.

Truth of the matter is, no matter what facts or studies you perform, they are all based off opinions. How many times does science change their thoughts or theories on a particular topic? How often are we finding things in science that we thought to be true at one point are now being proven false, or entirely different. I will not argue about the age because truthfully who knows? And this is a different discussion completely but no matter what you believe about History is all based on Faith.

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Gravity is rational. God isn't.



A perfect baker should make a perfect cookie...



Tough for Bob, he should compensate by making a better shoe instead of declaring Jamie "evil".
Gravity is rational because we know it to be real. What if we were born on a planet where gravity did not exist? Someone discovers a planet with gravity and says "there is this place where you are held down to the grown and you do not float around" because we have not seen this we chose to ignore this statement or we believe in it because of Faith.

God made creation perfect, man decided to stray from God. Just like Jamie. God allows us to make our own choices. If you have a kid, you can guide it and tell it what to do, but ultimately it is that kids choice to do what he or she wants to do, not yours. Though you desire for them to do the right thing, you allow them to make their own choices.

I am truly amazed you can say that God is irrational. If you truthfully believe all of this is coincidence, that is foolish. Simply learn about DNA and it's complexity, to say there is no creator is ridiculous.

Let me ask you, I want to build a car:
I put all the pieces required to build this car and all the tools in a garage to make this car. Billions of years pass by, eventually will this car create itself? No. It needs a creator.

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