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Originally Posted by Concrete Girl
But isn't that exactly what Christians have done? Pick and choose what to believe throughout the bible? Sure they believe what the bible says about God, but what about the things that God has said to do? In The Old Testament, for example, God clearly did not believe that women were as important and valuable as men. He taught that men should be honored more than woman. So, if we were to believe every thing written in the bible, wouldn't that apply as well? Wouldn't that mean that Christian's are sinning, because they do not believe men are more valuable than women? In my mind, saying "God says there is a Hell, but that, in my mind, is far to cruel" is no different than saying "God used to teach that women were of less value of men, but that doesn't hold to be true in the New Testament or in society today." But God still said it. He obviously does not believe that women are good for anything else other than having kids for men. If I'm going to believe all of the bible, that would also mean that I would have to believe this as well, that I'm not as worthy as a man. That homosexuals will burn in Hell. I would have to believe that if I committed a terrible sin, I must be stoned. Do you hold things like this to be true? Assuming you do not believe these things... then what do you believe God is? Do you believe he is a liar?
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As I've stated. Christian's are not perfect, just because we are saved does not me we are in turn better than anyone else. It means that we have chosen to attempt to be more Christ-like whether we fail or not. Christian's do have disagreements in the Bible because we are human and will not understand it to the full degree until our relationship with Christ is fulfilled when we die.
God never said that man is more important than woman. In fact it say's the median. God created man AND women in His image, thus we are both like Him (Genesis 1:27
. The difference is that woman would not have been created if God did not see that man was lonely and He knew exactly what man would need, someone to comfort Him, and encourage Him which is why He made woman (Genesis 2:18, 20-24). Both were given equal authority over the earth. The difference between man and woman is their roles in society, not necessarily that one is more important than the other. The role of man is to be a leader, as man was created first and is to support his family through labor (even though this is not how society is anymore, so yes we are technically living in sin because we see so often today that women are the workers in the families). The woman's role is to support, encourage, comfort her husband, and maintain the family. Each are equally important. And example of what I mean would be this, in school, you know what is required of you in order to get good grades, however. Doing this on your own is almost impossible, you need support from family, teachers, and friends or you will struggle greatly with this. It is the same with man/female. Men are to lead their families, yet they need the support of the women to do so.
Homosexuality is not condemned by God except in the Old Testament. It is a sin, YES. But so is lying, so is anger, so is malice, so is cursing, so is using God's name in vain, so is murder. You commit one sin, and you commit them all. There are people who are Christian and are gay, the thing is they should be trying to be more Christlike and control their urges to be with the same sex. Much like we most learn to control our anger, or any other sin. The thing is many Christian's condemn a lot of things and twist the Bible around. But let me point out another thing. In Matthew, Jesus was tempted by Satan, and Satan was tempting Jesus by the use of Scripture, and Jesus resisted this temptation because He knew scripture better than Satan. The point I am trying to make is that Satan has been there since the beginning, he knows scripture better than any Christian a live because he has been studying it since the beginning of time, now if Satan wanted to confuse people, and lead them astray do you not think that he has people planted in Churches to confuse people? Satan has no rules, he will do any means to lead people away from Christ, as long as they don't believe in the need for a Savior, Satan is winning is his eyes... So although people claim to be Christian, and maybe some of these peoples are Pastors and religious leaders in Churches, this doesn't mean that they are saved, they can be actually under the influence of Satan himself.
As Christian's it is us who need to discern whether or not the Church is speaking the truth or not. The Bible never says that being a Christian will be easy, it actually says the opposite, so it's no wonder so many people don't want to do it. We want everything handed to us which won't happen in Christianity, we are to deny ourselves and follow Christ. You can sit here and say, well Christians do this and Christians do that, and I will have the same answer for you everytime... Christian's still sin until their death, and revival with Christ.
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Also if you think Abraham had it hard, read about Job. Just because we have faith in God does not mean our lives are going to be easy, or even logical. We just trust that God is doing everything for His glory, again it comes down to denying ourselves and following our Savior. We give up our 80 years on earth, for eternity with God. Even though in this example of Job, God destroyed all he had and known, but because of Job's faithfulness he was rewarded both eternally and on earth by the end of the book of Job.