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Re: Belief in God without Religion? - July 10th 2009, 10:01 PM

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What is your rationale for him wanting equal amount of love from everyone? People could and probably do worship him with different amounts of love. The connection you'd have would be proportional to the amount of love and dedication you show, which (at least for the love part) you claim god wishes to have equally.

God loves US equaly, why wouldn't he want the same in return? I know that there's people who love and show more dedication than I do, so I'm not setting any proportions. I'm saying that God would want to be loved back as he loves us. He's obviously not, but why wouldn't he want that?



You didn't really answer the question. I asked what is your definition of god and basically you gave the concept you gave before that you wouldn't view him as being all-powerful. So aside from not being all-powerful, what is your definition of him?

I can't define God. I don't think anyone can. He's far too complex for me to sit here and make a full-length definition. I guess basicaly, God is the creator of Heaven and Earth, the creator of man. He is a spirit of a higher power and the spiritual form of Jesus. He's the guidance I look to when I'm struggling or even when I'm not. He's the reason I'm here today. The explanation for miracles. In the end, I don't completely know who God is because he left a bunch of things unclear which is where difference of opinion and belief comes in.

I'm not really sure what you meant by definition though.



But you did say that it is perfectly fine for others to have different beliefs. Since you didn't seem to show any reasons against them having it, then it would be implied that you have no problem with others having different beliefs. So this brings it back to you disagreeing with her while strongly making it seem like you have no problem (and presumably also agree) with other people's takes on it.

You're not making sense to me. IT IS perfectly fine for others to have their own beliefs on God without following a certain religion. I say this because I'm Catholic and I don't believe in everything that Catholics teach and preach and do. So I myself mix and match my beliefs about God. That does not by any means justify that I would believe anyone else's mixed matched ideas. I just don't have a problem with them doing it. Because God has not recently come down to Earth and cleared up the things he left unclear. He hasn't come down and told us which one of us is right, thats just something we assume.


But isn't god meant to be the closest thing to perfection? You claim he wrote it and you also claim it is flawed. So that leaves a few possibilities: (1) he wrote it half-assed, (2) he has a long list of flaws and you can probably come up with other possibilities.

I don't recall stating that God is the closest thing to perfection. If he was, then he would have time for all of us. And people wouldn't live miserable lives. So whether or not he's suppossed to be perfect, he's deffinitley not in my mind anyways. I don't think he finished writing it. And I think he should. But until that happens, basicaly the bible and the way we preceive it is the only thing to tell us whether we're wrong or right. But so many of our beliefs go beyond whats mentioned or clearly stated in the bible.
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