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Originally Posted by Lugez
I believe that this is the main issue when arguing with Christians. People like us don't believe that this ancient book is the word of God, and for good reason.
To me, it's the same thing as me writing down on a piece of paper "God says he loves you." Afterwards, I'd run around saying READ THE WORD OF GOD!!
This is why I believe the Bible is flawed, because it was written by men...But Christians don't believe that, and then they stick to the book with their arguments while we aren't swayed by those words.
And with that, it pretty much impossible to sway each other...
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Originally Posted by Christinaa317o8
Yes, thats completely true. I guess I kind of mean that God is okay with being seen different through different perspectives, but at the same time wishes to be worshiped equaly. I don't know how it doesn't make sense. A parent loves each of their children equaly but not the same. He wants each of those who believe in God to share the same amount of love for him. I know of plenty people who are Catholic and have never felt any connection with God but believe in him and the bible. Their beliefs are based more on facts and readings and teachings instead of emotional and spiritual connection. In my opinion, that connection with God is more important than the details of Christianity.
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What is your rationale for him wanting equal amount of love from everyone? People could and probably do worship him with different amounts of love. The connection you'd have would be proportional to the amount of love and dedication you show, which (at least for the love part) you claim god wishes to have equally.
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Originally Posted by Christinaa317o8
He's not controlling of everything in this world. I just don't believe he is. Why would a God, defined by the bible to be of all greatness, let good people suffer. He wouldn't. But yet, he has saved many suffering. I just kind of led myself to believe that the only explanation for this is that he doesn't have enough time to answer every single prayer.
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You didn't really answer the question. I asked what is your definition of god and basically you gave the concept you gave before that you wouldn't view him as being all-powerful. So aside from not being all-powerful, what is your definition of him?
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Originally Posted by Christinaa317o8
Yes it does. I didn't "shoot it down." I gave my belief on Hell. I didn't contradict myself. I said that I disagreed with her. I think its more than okay to have your own beliefs on God and his teachings, but I never said I agreed with what they were.
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But you did say that it is perfectly fine for others to have different beliefs. Since you didn't seem to show any reasons against them having it, then it would be implied that you have no problem with others having different beliefs. So this brings it back to you disagreeing with her while strongly making it seem like you have no problem (and presumably also agree) with other people's takes on it.
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Originally Posted by Christinaa317o8
I'm a Christian and I know the bible is flawed, but its still guided by God.
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But isn't god meant to be the closest thing to perfection? You claim he wrote it and you also claim it is flawed. So that leaves a few possibilities: (1) he wrote it half-assed, (2) he has a long list of flaws and you can probably come up with other possibilities.