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Originally Posted by Grizabella
Please, please, PLEASE read what I say before you respond - I already answered this. They don't care about what the hell Christians allow in their precious churches. Churches can do whatever the hell they want within their churches. They only care because a large group of Christians are trying to prevent SECULAR marriages from being legalized, something which the churches have absolutely no right to. Nearly every group opposing gay marriage is Christian - there are very few others fighting it so much. If churches would stay the hell away from secular laws, homosexuals wouldn't care about religious marriages.
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lol i like how you edited your post before i could catch you. You said "You like putting words in
my mouth much?" in response to my comment saying "even if you give them a link that proves a certain point wrong, they write it off as meaningless" And then you realize that you did JUST THAT, so you edited your post. It kinda sounded hard to believe for you, like it wasn't something that you would do, then you realized you DID do it.
Who is THEY? Some people have argued that they DO want to do that, even on here. So probably a lot more people want to change the church than you believe/ want to believe. It is obvious that you are not speaking for the whole movement, and there are parts of the movement that are more threatening to the church that you do not speak for.
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Originally Posted by PhoenixAlive
No. Denying people the right to these benefits specifically because they are of a certain group is treating a person as a second-class citizen.
Section 15 in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms states: "Every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and equal benefit of the law without discrimination."
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No, I defined to you what a second class citizen is. Denying them a SINGLE benefit that comes from marriage doesn't qualify them under all of the categories of a second class citizen.
- And thats nice, I'll pick up the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms for some vacation reading next time i go up to Canada. Oh, and that would be never.