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Originally Posted by Khadra
It is still a religious argument, because we do not live in a theocracy and our laws should not have anything to do with religion (tradition or not).
Are you admitting then that homosexuality IS biological? and if so, how can you say that homosexuals raising children is not natural?
Homosexuals compose of 5-10% of the population. That is a pretty significant portion of the population. Many kids grow up in single-parent family homes or blended family homes or are raised by other family members. Are you going to make divorce illegal now? because apparently you think only a man and a woman together are fit to raise a child
I don't think I understand what you're saying about gays trying to change the church, sorry. I think all most gay people want is to have the same rights heterosexual people, not take anything away from the church. I suppose some christian gay people may be trying to change the church, so they can be accepted in their chosen religion, but I don't know how commone that really is.
Generally, new things are better than old things. Of course they aren't always, but often they are. The reason is because as time goes by we learn more and more. When the religious texts were created society was very different. People knew a lot less than they do today. Not to mention, none of the many existing religions have yet been proven, so using them to back up a point does not have much meaning.
Last point, allowing homosexuals to be themselves and get married to the love of their life makes them happy. How can you possibly feel good about yourself denying them the right to this happiness? How would you feel if someone told YOU you couldn't marry the love of your life and have the benefiits that come with it? You can let them have their rights (AND HAPPINESS) without agreeing with what they're doing.
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-Well our laws are based on religion. Our country was founded on religion. Whether you think it should be or not.
-No I am not saying that. I am not really a science guy, so I just don't like to use "It is not natural" as a major argument of mine.
-Thats fine, at least you're willing to admit that you don't fully understand what I was trying to say. Allow me to try and explain it again. I think the whole 'Gay Marriage Movement' is trying to change the church. I don't really buy that individual gays who just want to get married are trying to change the church, so I agree with you there. However, I feel that liberal politicians (not exactly JUST the dems), and corrupt organizations (ACORN/ ACLU) are USING this struggle of the gay people in order to achieve an agenda of theirs that involves infiltrating the church. I could go more into what that agenda is, but all that matters is that 'infiltration of the church' is part of that agenda. Thats why I say that people can be gay as they want, just stay out of our churches, that way we don't have to worry about groups/politicians manipulating the gay rights movement for their personal agenda.
-People can't use religion as a backing point? And this is your decision? Ok, well there are 2 billion Christians, 1.2 billion Muslims, 1.4 Billion Buddhists, 1 Billion Hindus, and 200 Million Jews who disagree with you. And all those religions denounce gay marriage. Which reminds me, which one of you children said in a earlier post something along the line of "Religion is no longer the majority!"..... 5.6/6 billion people is not the majority?
- And your last paragraph. This argument is not about love. I have clearly established that, and I have never said that "they don't love each other" or that they shouldn't "be with each other", so given that, I do feel pretty good about myself.