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Originally Posted by Josh
I DO know more about your claim that it would be "kinder to abort the child than to put it up for adoption" when the child isn't wanted for whatever reason. Because that's my life you're talking about. Not everyone, just we - adoptees, orphans, etc. - know a lot more than anyone lucky enough to live with their natural parents could ever know or understand. That is a fact.
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That's wonderful that you were adopted however it does not make your claims any more valid than someone who is not adopted.
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Originally Posted by Josh
If you try to say it's not, I'll ask you this. There's a man with one arm, you've heard from other similar people what it's like to only live with one arm - can you honestly say you know just as much as the man with only one arm?
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No I cannot know as much as that man does. But I do know that his opinions on it do not carry any more or less weight than someone with both arms.
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Originally Posted by Josh
The fact that subconsciously somewhere remembers that time, shows me that it's a life. Plus the studies I have read which show that... thus, no I don't personally think it's right. But, I can't force anyone to change their opinion I can only state mine.
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Which studies? Do the embryos (not the fetuses) have any memory despite lacking a brain and all sensory organs? When you answered it last time, you gave me a link to a book (Journey of the Adopted Self). Unfortunately, according to the review, it is an unbalanced, biased book. I say that is what the reviewer says because that link does not allow me to read it.
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Originally Posted by Gixxers rock
Take this case scenario, if a mother gives birth and in the process would die, is an abortion justifiable? Assuming everybody has an equal right to life, the baby and the mother then are one for one, however, a woman also has the right to decide what goes on inside her body, so now you have two rights outweiging one.
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The baby does have an equal right to life, however, that does not mean that its view is that it wants/does not want to be born and live. You have two rights in total, yes, but only the mother and the father can voice their opinions unambiguously whereas the baby cannot. Three individuals, three rights but only two usable views.