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Jack, dude, you don't have facts. You have an opinion that is just as valid as everyone else - remember that. In my mind is the phrase I used because people are starting to claim I'm trying to force them to think a certain why while I'm also just stating my opinion. Everything you just stated is in YOUR mind.
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I'm afraid I do have facts considering this is a topic close to my heart.
-The JAMA (Journal of the American Medical Association) study on fetal pain (2005):
HERE (comes to the conculsion that it is unlikely are unlikely to be capable of feeling pain until the third trimester.) This is peer reviewed.
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these tests of cortical function suggest that conscious perception of pain does not begin before the third trimester.
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Nothing I have stated is purely in my mind, it is generally nicely laid out in peer reviewed medical journals. Which is generally considered to be rather reliable. I say purely, because obviously it is in my mind or else I could not type it.
If you wish I'm sure I can provide evidence for everything I have said in mind-numbingly boring detail, but half the studies I would like to link to need a subscription to the medical journal to view and it'll take me ages to find other versions.
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Can't type all of the search out, but what's in the book - if you care to look it up on google books the manual way is "journey of the adopted self." Page thirty. I see it as life & the possibility of life and don't agree with it, but I can't force it nor do I have any intention of forcing anything as people have been accusing me of (I just talk strongly, thus I find that implication actually amusing) - it's just all my mind like it's all your mind and all their mind.
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That is not a scientific book and thus hardly counts as evidence by any stretch of the imagination.
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I never stated make it illegal.
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However, that is what you are implying. You are stating that it is "wrong", something that is "wrong" should not be allowed to continue as it would not be to the benefit of the state. However it is "right" due to preventing more harm than it causes. If you do not wish for it to be illegal or to legally restrict it to "last resort" cases then why argue about it if the law is as it should be?