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Re: Has cancel culture and identity politics gone to far? - January 26th 2025, 12:01 PM

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable"
Is a famous quote.

While there isnt exactly violent opposition, there is certainly extreme opposition to woke cancel culture given Musk's rise to power and also his takeover and subsequent changes to twitter.

I am not sure cancel culture does anything good. People dont shut up when they are silenced, they double down and seek to overthrow who is silencing them. While I dont like Musk, I wish Musk bought Reddit instead of twitter...just for the *popcorn* that would result when mods lose their ability to cancel as much content as they do. Reddit has taken over way too much internet discourse and is probably a big reason for the extinction of forums and reduced activity on this one. I made a post that said who I voted for in a major political sub, got massively downvoted and then couldnt post in any major subreddit for over a month due to "low karma". I mostly frequent small subs so making a post on a big one really overwhelmed my comment karma. Is this a problem? I think it is because it is why Reddit has turned into a liberal echo chamber. I dont think censoring things is a good way to protect the public. Getting banned from a massive number of subreddits they never heard by an autobanning bot for posting in a lockdownSkeptic subreddit didnt make them any more likely to get the vaccine. Instead it made them think "you mean the vaccine pushed by pro-censorship people? Fuck that, Im not letting their cancel juice into my veins". I honestly think cancel culture is pushed hardest by people who either never get out (and therefore take a "cant see it on my computer screen...doesnt exist" approach) or stick within a narrow circle of likeminded people ("if I dont know them, then it doesnt exist..even though they can still vote").

I also think there are also issues that conservatives are not budging on but should. Medicine should be socialized and last month we saw what happens when the wrong person is denied for a health insurance claim due to a technicality.

I think cancel culture played a massive role in Trump's re-election. People tired of it and Biden's lack of action on issues that matter didnt help. They'd get banned from a massive number of subreddits for criticizing Biden or Harris which only served to make them more likely to vote for Trump.

It is just a form of cyberbullying and peer pressure. It seeks to disincentivize people from social media posts about particular topics by making them seem "socially unacceptable" but it has been so overly used that it no longer has the effect of making people feel their beliefs are unacceptable. They just join the rest of the people who got cancelled-forming yet another polarizing echo chamber

Facebook recently lessened its censorship policy to the chagrin of a lot of liberals. It was shocking to see the number of people commenting on Mark's announcement with "social media is no longer safe" or "social media is no longer accurate"(?!-imagine getting your news from facebook). So many dont want free speech on social media platforms.

It was admitted that facebook along with other social media sites censored talk of the "lab leak theory" for COVID as it is "insensitive to Chinese and not what the pandemic is about". It turns out that while it isnt necessarily true that it was a lab leak, the evidence is not convincing that it wasnt. And I feel everyone who lived through 2020 deserves to know the truth. Nobody should be telling me "what the pandemic should be about". To me, that is like saying it doesnt matter if the California wildfires were started by a human or not...it kind of does matter if there exist people who started this either accidentally or on purpose. It also came out that the "six foot rule" during COVID wasnt based on science but "just sort of appeared"(according to Fauci himself). Questioning the science is how you do science. Not questioning the "experts" is how you get an authoritarian government. When all this came out, the cancel
culture of the past several years was all blatant censorship and many people arent happy about it. It created a large number of people who abhor cancel culture and therefore by definition of large number they cant be cancelled, just banned from what has become echo chambers.

Both sides need changes and they wont be made in the state of polarity encouraged by cancel culture. Cancel culture got big right before politics became super polarized. It has led to an "empathy divide" where many people don't care about the other side.

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