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Re: What proof do you want? And in turn, what proof do you have? - April 4th 2009, 12:59 AM

Meh I hold the same view of Revelations as Thomas Jefferson: "merely the ravings of a maniac, no more worthy nor capable of explanation than the incoherences of our own nightly dreams."

I can't say that revelations should be universally accepted by Christians without question due to the amount of times it's been shoved into the Antilegomena by intelligent Christians and other denominations.

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Revelation talks about a lot around the end of time. Looking at the way the world is today I'd say we're getting closer and closer.
I can't say the events of revelations are any more likely to happen these days, if by saying that you mean the world is evil and therefore will soon be judged then that's ridiculous. The world is FAR less evil than it has been in the past and people who believe otherwise are just in a state of mild hysteria from the over dramatic doomsday-style news media. Or do you mean events match up recently, in which case I also disagree.

And why are religious people still saying "yeah prove God doesn't exist lalalalalala" when we don't need to, if you can't prove something exists the only logical position to adopt is disbelief. I think that's been explained by about 15 different people in 15 different ways throughout the whole of this thread. Yes, I realise religion is not logical, and that gap of logic is where faith comes in but without free will the idea that a compassionate God is going to punish me for beliefs that I hold no control over is ridiculous.

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