[TigerTank77]

Originally Posted by Maverick.

Just to start, I mean no disrespect to you. I think it's awesome that we both have different sides to this and can't wait to see which one of is right. Nevertheless, just as you had to refute my statements, I shall do the same.

Sounds good. Mock trial? Mock trial. Hahaha.

Originally Posted by Maverick.

You can clearly hear wind rustling in the 911 call. Which indicates he's moving at a fast pace.

At 1:43 in the video, you can hear the sound of a beeping noise generally made by a vehicle who's doors are open when the engine/lights are on, and it does sound like George is moving. However, at 2:00, after the dispatcher tells Zimmerman that they don't need him to follow Martin, the "wind" noise starts to die down, and it's completely gone by the 2:15 mark. So he's either walking, or standing still. Neither of those two options would allow him to "chase down" Martin.

That being said, what if he was standing still or walking and it was windy? If I remember, it had just rained before hand, and it being really windy after a rain storm isn't unheard of. Moreover, he's not really out of breath at the 2:15 mark, which means he was probably walking, which is not running down or chasing. Moreover, in the video of the reenactment, the "wind" noise gets picked up by the camera while they're sitting in the car.

Point is, the "wind" is not an accurate measurement of Zimmerman's actions at the time.

Originally Posted by Maverick.

Had Trayvon been white, Zimmerman would have just assumed he was a resident of the community

Objection, leading. You don't know what Zimmerman would have assumed.

Originally Posted by Maverick.

That's racial profiling.

Objection, speculation. The FBI conducted an investigation and determined that there wasn't any racist motive on Zimmerman's part.

Originally Posted by Maverick.

Zimmerman is definitely stronger than Trayvon.

Trayvon had a height and age advantage over Zimmerman. He was in better physical shape, and played varsity football. Zimmerman is not in the best physical shape, and I have no idea what muscle tone you're referring to. He's a pretty small dude (but I'm 6'1, so thats from my point of view)

Originally Posted by Maverick.

Zimmerman was told to stay away. He is not the fucking police.

He was told they didn't need him to follow Martin, and he complied with that, he said "okay" after all. The conversation after that was very calm and again, Zimmerman wasn't speaking out of breath, so he wasn't running. Also, dispatcher's aren't the police either, and have no legal authority.

Originally Posted by Maverick.

Either way, the bullet was shot in a way to where Trayvon was not on top of him.

Lets take a look at the link you posted, shall we?

"A leaked autopsy reportedly shows that the bullet that killed Florida teen Trayvon Martin was fired from "intermediate range," which one forensics expert said means anywhere from one to 18 inches away"

One to eighteen is a completely valid scenario for Trayvon being on top of Zimmerman.

Originally Posted by Maverick.

he did not return to his vehicle.

Really? Go to 9:30 in the video you posted. "I have a silver Honda ridge-line, I'll meet him right there. So then I started walking back." And then he starts walking back to his truck. He was confronted by Trayvon while returning to his vehicle. Again, the police reports support this.

Originally Posted by Maverick.

Why did he go over to where Trayvon was?

He didn't know where Trayvon was until Trayvon confronted him. He has no idea where the guy is in the latter half of the 9/11 call, if he did we wouldn't be calm and content with waiting for the police.

Originally Posted by Maverick.

Zimmerman instigated the issue by confronting a child*.

Objection, *'Six foot plus' tall varsity football player. Not a child. You're leading.

Originally Posted by Maverick.

"Today I'm going to kill a random hoodlum soliciting through the complex"

Objection, leading. Again, you don't know what Zimmerman was thinking.

Originally Posted by Maverick.

Not to mention he was armed. So basically he had an agenda.

Objection, leading. You don't know what Zimmerman's "agenda" was, if any, and I'm slightly offended at your insinuation that someone being armed means they have some sort of malicious agenda. Especially since the firearm was legal, and was being legally carried. Ulterior motive can only be assumed if the firearm was illegal, and that's not the case.

Originally Posted by Maverick.

THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY FELT THIS WAS NOT A SELF DEFENSE ISSUE AND NOT ONLY PROSECUTED AND ARRESTED ZIMMERMAN, BUT SLAMMED A SECOND DEGREE MURDER TAG ON HIM.

The District Attorney slapped second degree murder on him because the trial was highly publicized and she wanted to make it look like the state was doing something to appease public opinion.

There's nothing to suggest second degree murder. None. Zero. Zip. Manslaughter? Maybe, but that ship sailed the second the DA tried to make this a trial of public opinion.

Originally Posted by Maverick.

You are able to use firearm protection if the case if believed to be self defense.

Links to pictures of George Zimmerman's injuries (GRAPHIC, BLOOD):
http://www.blacknews.com/images/geor...man_injury.jpg
http://abcnews.go.com/images/US/ap_g...1204_wblog.jpg

All the Prosecution has at this point is speculation. There's no evidence to show that Zimmerman chased down and tackled Trayvon, let alone him starting the confrontation; there's no evidence to suggest that Zimmerman started the fight ; there's no evidence there's no evidence to suggest that the events of that night are wildly different than what Zimmerman has put forth; and the fact that the State is pursuing Second Degree actually feeds into the notion that Zimmerman is being unjustly persecuted.

Did Zimmerman following Trayvon cause the physical confrontation? Possibly, but since Zimmerman disengaged and was walking back to meet with the incoming officer, the physical confrontation was completely unnecessary and completely within the realm of responsibility of Trayvon Martin. He had no right to physically assault Zimmerman, and he paid for it with his life.

If I get into an argument with someone, and he physically assaults me, it's still his fault. If I follow someone for a minute, and then walk away, and he confronts and physically assaults me while I'm walking away from him, it's his fault.

If Zimmerman had started the physical confrontation, Trayvon would have defensive wounds (he didn't), and this would be a whole different game. But beyond speculation, there's absolutley no evidence to support that theory, and tons of police verified evidence suggesting that Zimmerman was physically assaulted after disengaging and walking away from Trayvon. Zimmerman's "pursuit" (if you can call it that) and Trayvon's physical confrontation were two separate events. Zimmerman didn't make Trayvon physically attack him, and attacking someone who's walking away from you isn't self defense, it's assault- even with the fact that Zimmerman was armed, because he was carrying concealed, which means that Trayvon had no idea Zimmerman was armed until he got shot.

This is why you don't act tough and run up on people, even if they're following you, and especially if they've stopped following you and are walking away.