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Should LGBT Teens be able to openly serve in the military?
Recently some of our state senators are trying to lift the block that stops LGBT people from openly serving in the military. Many LGBT in the military have to go in hiding.
For article click here I personally think people should be able to openly serve in the military, being bi-sexual my self, I neglect to see a reason why. People have said there runs a risk of unprotected sex on base/ invasion of sexual privacy. What about when male and female military hook up; thats not right. Some have also it raises chance for a misconduct, how can being lgbt really start a fight, if a LGBT was set to defend his country he will focus on just that and nothing else. I also read it must result in training to deal with LGBT, that is false, we don't require any additional training then a regular military. more information and reasons against it click here Anyone else care to share there honest opinion? |
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Whether they're open about it or not, LBGT people are still gonna do their LGBT thang :p Don't Ask Don't Tell just gives the military the right to kick them out over it.
All it does is save intolerant civilians from a big freak out if the policy were lifted. "Now gays are joining our military so they can have openly gay sex with each other omgawdz!" Or something of that ignorant nature... |
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http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...-ask-dont-tell I know it's difficult, but sometimes it's fine to have a little faith in the public. |
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I know most people want it repealed, as well as myself. I was just trying to make a joke about reasons why people wouldn't. Haha? |
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It really shouldn't matter if your gay or straight. I don't approve of teenagers joining the army though ¬.¬
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I don't see why LGBT people shouldn't be allowed to serve in the army. I agree with Fictional that I'm iffy about teenagers being in the army in general, but there's no reason why gender or sexual orientation should be a decider. |
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And I think anybody should be allowed to join. |
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No, I do not think LGBT people should be allowed to serve in the military, whether open about it or not. I also believe people should be allowed to serve in the military at 16, with the first year being spent on less combat oriented roles, and more on technical, such as demolitions and such.
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We could do like the Japanese and have an army who serve only to deffend our country.
And I'm biased because my older cousin has dedicated his life to joining the army and killing people ¬.¬ |
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What is your reasoning behind this? We can serve and defend our freedom as good as everyone else. |
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I do believe that LGBT people should be able to openly serve in the military. And in a perfect world, they would be able to do so without being ridiculed by other homophobic people in the military. I actually spoke to a retired Navy about this once and he said that the way that African American people are still tormented in the military, he thinks it would only cause more chaos for LGBT people to be allowed in. It's just such a shame that it has to be that way.
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We should have a military, but it shouldn't step outside our borders unless there is agreement with the U.N. |
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I really agree. LGBT is almost like saying the Japanese or the blacks couldn't serve in the military. If the blacks or Japanese were eventually allowed to enter the military, so should LGBT. There is no difference, we won't fight differently..etc |
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I think people from the LGBT community should be able to serve in the military. Theres not anything physically or mentally wrong with the people of the LGBT community so why should we not be able to serve our country. I thought that was what the military was about putting aside peoples differnces and fighting for the greater good.
' Somebody brought up to me once they don't they should because the same sex lives with each other and showers with each other all that stuff, and they don't want somebody that's gay watching them take a shower for example. I think thats a bunch of crap as well. People need to stop being so full of themselves. That comes from the stupid thought that just because your gay your going to like every single guy or just because your a lesbian means your going to like every single female. Which is obivoulsly false. |
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No person should be barred from serving in the armed forces on a basis of race, gender, original place of origin (as long as they are a citizen) or sexual orientation. So what if you are LGBT? Does that mean that you can't be just as good with a gun than anyone else? Hell no. If they want to serve, let them serve. And make it policy that any officer who harasses a LGBT soldier can be stripped of rank or otherwise punished for their actions.
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I honestly don't think it should be able to open. Not because I think the idea is ridiculous, but because I think it would distract gay and straight militants alike. However, I think the decision should be up to the military and the people in the military since they'd be the ones to deal with it.
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I've always held the view that a person's fitness to serve in the Armed Forces should be based upon their physical fitness to serve in the role, their ability to carry out their role and their dedication to protecting their country and abiding by the rules of engagement and applicable laws. Factors such as gender, religion, political views or sexuality are to my mind irrelevant so long as they do not encourage discrimination within the ranks or encourage illegal conduct (such as extremist views promoting violence against certain groups). On that basis, I see no coherent logical reason why LGBT persons should not be allowed to serve in the Armed Forces. The ban in the US seems to be based solely on appeasing deep-rooted prejudice, and I can assure you that repealing such restrictions has had no impact whatsoever on the Armed Forces here in the UK. It's practically a non-issue for most people.
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I think gays should be allowed to serve openly in the military, and I believe one of the main points that is deterring some people from wanting this is the "invasion of sexual privacy." However, members of the LGBT community have morals too. If they're half-decent, they're not going to force their sexuality on you if you do not want it, and they are not going to watch you get changed or the like. If they're truly dedicated to defending their country, they wouldn't risk their position by doing any of these things anyway. If this happens, it just means that the culprit was indecent and probably should not be welcomed into the military at any rate.
I also see sexuality as rather irrelevant to the military. The reason I want it repealed is more so that LGBT members cannot be kicked out if they're discovered, not so they can go around proclaiming their sexuality to all of their comrades. I don't see why it matters what someone's sexuality is -- gay, straight, or otherwise. The goal of the military is to defend your country ultimately, and I don't see the point of dwelling on it. |
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Should we be more like China, Iran, and Saudi Arabia? Or like UK, Germany, or Sweden? |
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I was under the impression that they had gotten rid of the "Don't ask, don't tell" policy... And that any sexual preference could now openly serve?
That's what my recruiter told me? O_O |
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Honestly, isn't it more dangerous for LGBT to be open gay in the military?
Though, sexual orientation is a ridiculous reason to keep someone from serving their country. |
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I don't see any reason why they shouldn't be allowed in the army. I just don't get it. What the hell has it got to do with anything.
Extra training? For what... exactly? Invasion of privacy? Ok... I don't know the details, but I DO know, there are both men and women in the army, SO... from that angle I don't see any difference. Actually I get it now, but it took an hour of my philosophy. They are trying to increase the gene pool of LGBTs in the general population by not sending them to war. Makes perfect sense. Perhaps they are trying to stem the population growth in the long term to reduce the public demands on the government? |
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One of the biggest problems could be they do not want them to be shot on purpose by friendly fire.
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I am quite Liberal and I very much want advancements in equal rights, but I can see a positive aspect here.
We are keeping people out of a war of complete bullshit. |
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My personal opinion? A homosexual can shoot a rifle just as straight as a heterosexual. It is stupid to discriminate against people based on what they do form the comfort of their own sex swing. :rolleyes:
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As long as you're in the military, it's not gay.
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As a general reply, to save time in replying to each question individually, as they were all generally the same.
It diminishes the outward appearance of our military as a powerful force, this looks scary, http://www.linkdelight.com/ldmedia/p...H051_show1.jpg NOT THIS, ....no way am I posting that, just google image "gay parade" and you will see what I mean... |
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Actually Guile does have a point. I don't think it outweighs the rights of gay people or that its useful to have more potential troops, but its a fair point. Although I doubt gay people will be wearing rainbow uniform or anything, its more the reputation I think. Its one of the problems women are facing in the army. They just aren't intimidating or scary to any degree. Sure they can, mostly, perform to the same average as men can, but they don't have any intimidation/fear factor.
I think, when considering the upsides/downsides, they should be allowed in, but you DO have to recognise the possible negative consequences. |
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This is all following how you guys felt about the blacks in the military in ww2, soon you guys will wake up and see our points, and you guys will see us prosper just like blacks in ww2. |
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buddy, trust me, there are lotts of current military soldiers who ARENT SCARY AT ALL! |
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