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Woman’s eight false rape claims
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/new...e_rape_claims/
A WOMAN who reported eight false rapes to the police has walked free from court. Rod Hunt, prosecuting, said Jayne Stuart, 37, withdrew the latest claim after she realised the effect on the men she accused after having consensual sex with them. Judge Peter Bowers said it was unfortunate that there was no anonymity for the men, four of whom were acquitted after trials in the past two years. Mr Hunt told Teesside Crown Court yesterday that Stuart, who is single, was not wicked, but had mental health difficulties that led to her making the accusations. One man from Darlington was cleared of rape, but convicted of actual bodily harm assault with a sex toy. The family of her latest victim was in court when she pleaded guilty to attempting to pervert the course of public justice between April 24 and May 16 with a false allegation of rape to police. Stuart, of Gormier Close, Thirsk, North Yorkshire, was given a 12-month jail sentence, suspended for 18 months, with supervision. Mr Hunt said: “Each of the men involved have suffered a terrible stigma. “It seems to be a fallback position on her behaviour. She makes a complaint and it has to be investigated, but she has withdrawn her most recent complaint. “The Crown concede in her case that she is a person labouring under mental health difficulties, and that this is not the usual case where someone is out-and-out wicked. “It may be, now that she is able to see the harm she is doing to others, that she may be able to stand on her own two feet.” Bryan Russell, in mitigation, said Stuart feared jail. He said she had worked in charity shops in the past, and was willing to do so again as a community punishment. Judge Bowers told her: “You deserve a prison sentence and usually I would send somebody to prison for this. “The danger is that if you had a genuine, a real complaint in the future, the police might not be very inclined to take you seriously. “You will have to be very careful with whom you take up with in the future.” |
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im gonna get shit for this but....
since she likes to falsly accuse men of rape maybe the men should do what she accused them of to her... she ruined those mens lives even if they werent convicted i think she should suffer for the damage she caused... |
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I wonder when she yells rape... anyone will actually believe her !!if she is truly raped by force.
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I could write a book response, but I'm not going to do that just yet...all I'm going to say is that...this woman deserves a nice prison sentence.
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It's awful what this woman has done, but if she truly understands now that what she was doing was wrong then I see no reason to put her in jail.
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She didn't get any jail time?
She should be out in jail at least 8 years one for every false claim... |
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She was declared not mentally fit so when that happens, the person doesn't go to jail. They do often get incarcerated in forensic psychiatric hospitals at varying levels of security though, so it's possible she may have gotten that as it wouldn't count as jail time. She did say though she's willing to do community punishment so she may be getting that. Now that she is able to understand the harm she's doing, she should at least pay a compensation to the men.
Sad thing is, just like the story of the boy who cried wolf, eventually when the wolf does come, the villagers don't. That seems likely to happen to her: she calls rape and each time it's fake, so when it does happen, she may not be believed. |
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That's just stupid, I blame the parents D=
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Couldn't the men or police sue her for false accusations and slander? Perhaps they could let it go once or twice but 8 times? Come on, she's on the way to pulling off 3 hat tricks then a baker's dozen. If she was suffering from such mental health problems that she began giving these accusations, why not put her into a mental hospital to get her more stabilized?
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i just feel really sorry for those men there lives are ruined they might be proved innocent and she might be proven she lied but what she said they did will haunt those men for a long time... i could understand letting her off for mental problems if she did it once or twice but 8 times ? no way if she really has mentall problems stick her in a mental hospital for as long as each of the men would have gotten if they did rape her... whats she gonna do if some sicko uses this to there advantages and does rape her and she accuses themm ? theyll likelly get off since she did it before and when it really did happen no one will believe her. |
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I feel it is worth pointing out she has still been given a custodial sentence of 12 months - it is however conditional on how she conducts herself over the next 18 months. Should she commit further offences in that time or breach the terms of her supervision order then she will most certainly go to prison. |
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Even if it was once I think it's still messed up :| That man's life would have turned upside down because of her :/ This also goes to show why a lot of people don't believe people who have actually been abused :/
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this woman basically made fun of people who have actually been raped . that is not cool nor funny no matter what mental problems she has... |
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She should have got prison time. Or atleast commited to a hospital. Those mens lives are ruined. I am sure they will be dealing with the mental and emotional scars for a long time, as well difficulty in there home and work life.
I don't think anyone is going to believe her if it really does happen. or atleast not very easily. I also wonder about the next time any woman reports a rape in that town. |
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I'm all for a large prison sentence but I don't think having her raped would be totally necessary. At times I do believe in Hammurabi's Code of Law where an "eye for an eye" would be appropriate, but for all we know...she could WANT to be raped. What kind of punishment is it to have a woman raped when she wants to be raped? Isn't that consensual sex? Basically she ruins the lives of innocent men, and is punished by having consensual sex. What the hell kind of punishment is that? No, stick her in prison, and let her inmates take care of all that.
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Rape should have a life long sentence. She should have at least a ten year sentence. Karma is coming to her. |
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I wonder what the sentence for perverting the courts of justice is... she should get that times eight
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http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/s...se_of_justice/ It goes on to set out some case law in which false accusations of rape have been made, and the sentences for such false accusations have ranged from four months to two years. There's also an interesting comment near the top of the page which may explain why the sentence seems to have no relation to the allegations she made: Quote:
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I see substantial grounds for lawsuits on the grounds of slander and libel. Even if only one of the victims files suit, I think a hefty sum should be divided between all eight of them. I don't care if this woman has to sell her home, car, and all of her possessions. In fact, I prefer that she have to do it.
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Yes, it's wrong that she made those claims. However, she had consensual sex with these men, and she has mental issues, so maybe, in her mind afterwards, it was like, non-consensual. She may have been confused or something, either way, she's declared mentally unfit, so no court is going to sent her to jail. Community service, mayhaps, court ordered mental help probably, but jail? It's not going to happen. If you are mentally unfit, you aren't held responsible for the stupidity that is yourself, it sucks but that's the law in most civilized countries. If you read the article, she wasn't calling rape to be malicious or wicked, she was mentally unstable, and maybe she thought it was rape.
I do have to say, for a bunch of open minded, good teenagers, automatically saying that she should be raped because she claimed rape is not only uncool, it's wrong. Rape should never be a punishment for anything.Ever. If the victums file a civil law suit, they might be able to get something out of it, if her lawyer doesn't automatically play the mentally unstable card, which would make her not liable. This isn't the whole story guys, it's just the bit the press wants you to know to make you angry and heated. |
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1) Whatever the mental health difficulties are - for which one would have to read the pre-sentence reports - they have not been held sufficient for acquittal and so by the same vein would likely not be sufficient to prevent custody were the probation order breached. Were they sufficient, it is likely a treatment order would have been made instead. 2) The probation order including supervision (not supervision order - an error on my part for which I apologise) will likely include the mental health services in light of the submissions made. However, should it be breached then unless there is evidence of deterioration of her mental state making hospital more appropriate it is more likely the suspended sentence will be activated. The sentence as it stands suggests the difficulties are not sufficient to prevent custody as otherwise the suspended sentence would not have been made at all. 3) The suspension period is not connected to the length of the sentence - it is set by the judge and reflects what they deem a sufficient probationary period in light of the offence committed. It is not an extra 6 months on the sentence; instead it means that the defendant is liable to be sent to prison if they breach their order within those 18 months. After 18 months and pending the successful completion of the order, the conviction is treated as spent. Hope that clears things up a bit. |
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Personally, i don't care if she has mental health problems. I'd still like to see her spend a minimum of (works out sums in head... 8x8) 64 years in prison. Each of those men's entire lives and reputations are now ruined on her whim. She should be in prison for 64 years, the amount of time each of these men would have served.
This is a perfect example of why the courts need a drastic overhaul. I would have thought that it's just COMMON SENSE to give anonymity to a person accused of rape. Being aware of the factors (automatic reputation-ruiner etc.) they should realise that publishing the name is wrong. Unfortunately, as the courts are, I don't think she'll be seeing any punishment, or very little, certainly not jail. Come to think of it, she wouldn't get jail even if she wasn't mentally disabled. |
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By the way, I noticed you're in the UK, so is there an abbreviation of NCRMD or NCR for "not criminally responsible on account of mental disorder" or "not criminally responsible", or is it something else? |
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To answer your question above, from what I have been able to find my understanding would be that while it would be raised as a mitigating factor in limiting any damages awardable, it would be unlikely to negate her liability until it could be shown that the difficulties mentioned limited her capacity. In other words, if they meant that on the balance of probabilities she was unaware that a wrong had been committed (in this case defamation by way of slander) then it would be an absolute defence against liability. That would however depend upon the exact details of what the difficulties were, so it's difficult to say whether it would be above or below the 51% required. It would still have the same weight as in the criminal courts - the Civil Procedure Rules do not differ on that if I recall correctly - but it all comes down to what the medical evidence suggests. None of this would prevent the men from bringing a claim against her, but they would impact upon the likely success of such claims. Quote:
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Casey I couldn't agree more with what you said...
I'm not saying that she shouldn't get punished, it's people like her that messes up the system for people that actually has been abused... But saying that she deserves going through sexual abuse as a punishment is sick. She has mental health issues and I thought as Casey also wrote that she probably did thought it was rape. You're even forgetting that one of the men did get convicted for bodily harm assualt so there's probably more of the story to tell than what we've heard about it. |
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Why , what a bitch! How dare she do that , she's wrecked lives! :mad:
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